We would like to sum up the war in Ukraine and the actions of the Russian troops by the end of the year of the war. And first of all I’d like to get to know you more.
How long have you been working in Ukraine already? How did your attitude to the atmosphere there change? What are the difficulties now living there?
I’ve been with The New York Times for more than 20 years now. I’ve lived in Central and Eastern Europe for a number of years as the Warsaw bureau chief before the war. But I had never been to Ukraine until two weeks before the invasion.
There’s a lot we could talk about in terms of how much the country has changed. We can talk about the first couple of weeks. I think everyone did not know exactly how things would unfold. We watched as embassies left and people started to move out. And there was this deep uncertainty. And then February 16th came and passed — there was this notion that this was going to be the date of invasion. Then there was kind of this sense, okay, maybe this won’t happen.
But on the night of the 24th, we all saw Russia’s invasion. We had been guessing — would it be a small-scale thing in the East? Or would they try to launch this massive invasion to take the whole country? And they chose the latter. So there was a lot of uncertainty, obviously a lot of confusion.